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Uzir Beg: Forgotten Bhakti Poet of Orissa


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Uzir Beg: Forgotten Bhakti Poet of Orissa


The Culture of Orissa, Jagannath Culture, is based on the non-sectarian ideology that welcomes every religious and non-religious believer to its fold to receive the blessings of Lord Jagannath. Salbeg, though Muslim by birth, is the brightest star of the Orissan sky who enlightened the Orissan society by his devotional bhajanas, jananas and chaupadis. In this 21st Century, he is still being reckoned as one of the brightest literary figures of Orissa.
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Uzir Beg: Forgotten Bhakti Poet of Orissa

By Mohammed Yamin | Published 11/9/2009
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Sri Krsna
Orissan Pata-chitra

The Culture of Orissa, Jagannath Culture, is based on the non-sectarian ideology that welcomes every religious and non-religious believer to its fold to receive the blessings of Lord Jagannath. Salbeg, though Muslim by birth, is the brightest star of the Orissan sky who enlightened the Orissan society by his devotional bhajanas, jananas and chaupadis. In this 21st Century, he is still being reckoned as one of the brightest literary figures of Orissa.

There are certain other contemporary literary figures who were unfortunately forgotten in our society, but who deserve special and renewed attention. One such Bhakti poet is Uzir Beg. In this paper it is my humble attempt to rekindle the life and work of Uzir Beg, a forgotten Bhakti poet of Orissa.

Uzir Beg had written a few devotional bhajanas in reverence of Lord Krishna. His writing is simple and melodious, and can touch the heart of every human, irrespective of their religious beliefs. His anthology on Lord Krishna is very famous, and in current stressful life it can give solace to mankind.

His great poem, Nanda Utsava, is an immortal one, based on Lord Krishna's Supernatural love, touching the emotion of an un-emotive soul. Nanda Utsava or Gopalila is full of love, emotion and literary etymology centered round Lord Krishna. The performance of Nanda Utsava has long been maintained as a tradition in a locality named Aarasa. Here, the spectator cannot experience the modern light decorations on a raised platform; rather, it has its own uniqueness in the old tradition of a simple folk festival.

God belongs to all mankind, but to achieve their own narrow goals, men divided God. God never differentiates men or the basis of belief, but rather takes all mankind as his own creation. In this way Lord Ram was born in Tretaya Yuga, Lord Krishna in Dwapara Yuga, and in course of time in different yugas, Buddha, Jesus, and Prophet Mohammed were born in order to maintain peace and harmony on this earth. Poet Uzir Beg understood the finer meaning of these religious preachers. He had written his work Nanda Utsava in simple countryside Oriya language to disseminate his view on Lord Krishna to all. He expressed his feeling of supernatural and cosmic love by writing many heart bubbling works, like Sita Banabas, Rama Banabas, Bhakta Sudama and Babru Bahana or Khudrukuni Brata Katha.

Uzir Beg was born in 1869 A.D. at Barua Haripur village, in the district of Jajpur, into a Sunni Muslim Family. [1] Sometimes he has been referred as the son of a Mughal Father and Brahmin (Hindu) Mother. [2] In course of time, Beg's family migrated to the village Badataela of Kanika Principality. His father served as a bodyguard of Kanika Raja.

Here, young Uzir experienced the hardship of the common men. He typically compared King Kansa's exploitation during Lord Krishna's period with the misery of Kanika. What he experienced was the suffering in Kanika, so, he reproduced it in his writings. His love and devotion to Lord Krishna and Krishna Gopalila had changed the emotive mind of Uzir Beg. His famous work, Nanda Utsava, is a meagre prose dialogue, although he himself was a legendary actor and musician. He used melodious music for the scene as it required. Sometimes he himself played the role of Nanda in Nanda Utsava. In the same play he used tuneful songs in which emotion, ridicule, fear, love and anger were fancifully experienced by the spectators.

Uzir Beg was an acclaimed figure in the writings of Bhakti poems in Orissa. He is also known as the Jaban Kabi. He was also a silent reformer. It is believed that in 1926 A.D., Nanda Utsava was first performed at Aarasa village with the band of a cultural upholder. Since then this tradition has continued till now at the same village. [3] K.C. Behera, in his book Oriya Sahitya [4] regarding Islami Prabhaba, has also outlined the performance of Nanda Utsava in Aarasa village till now.

Uzir Beg's devotion for Lord Krishna can be better illustrated in his following bhajana:

Krushna Pujana Kar
Krushna Bhajan Kar
Kebal gati mukti dwara
Bhane Beg Uzir
Mu Murkha durachar
Kebal naam matra saar

Worship and recite in praise of Lord Krishna. He can only make you free from this worldly life.

Thus, although Uzir Beg is forgotten in the literary arena of Orissa, his legendary works are still performed in villages like Aali, Baraha, Chandbali, Kanika, Kayama and Rajnagar.




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November, 10 2009
Hare Krsna, Juan,

From tomorrow (Nov 10th, 2009 11:00AM India time), large number of Vaishnav Sadhu-Saints are going to sit en-mass for hunger strike to protest against illegal mining and blasting of hills associated with Krishna Lilas. These Krishna Lila-Sthali are described in detail in Srimad Bhagavatam 10th Canto where Krishna did his past-time along with His cow-herd boys. These sacred hills are in Kalaavata, Kaamvan, Near Vimal Kund, Kaman, Rajasthan (Near to the Goverdhan Hill).

Supreme Court of India and Rajasthan High Court have banned all of these illegal activities but the mining mafia in collusion with corrupt Politicians and Police is destroying these Lila-Sthali with full force by using large scale dynamites. The motive is simple - They are earning lots of money by illegal mining.

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Srila Prabhupada speaks on: Why no More Men from Apes


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"Why no More Men from Apes"
October 14, 1975

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Prabhupada: Therefore his civilization -- so much, that's all. His standard of civilization, this much. (break) ... no tree, even a small tree is considered big tree. (break) Man came from ape, so why man is not coming now from ape? Hm?

Harikesa: It only happened once, and that was enough to start the whole thing.

Prabhupada: Only once.

Pusta Krsna: It had to happen at least twice.

Prabhupada: That is another rascaldom. We see the flowers and fruits are coming every season. Why once? This dogmatic, we have to accept? Our experience is that by nature's way we find the same flower is coming again in the same season.

Pusta Krsna: Well, actually Darwin said that there's a missing link.

Prabhupada: You rascal, you say that. What is that missing link? Simply bluffing, and it is going on in the name of science. Just see the fun. Simply misleading, and people are so rascal, this civilized man, so-called, he is accepting as great theory.

Pusta Krsna: Accepting?

Prabhupada: This Darwin's theory as very big invention or discovery. Simply childish rascaldom. There is no reason; there is no sense. Man came from monkey -- why not coming now? Stop once. So what kind of men came first?

Pusta Krsna: First there was very primitive man.

Prabhupada: No, primitive...

Pusta Krsna: They think that he resembles a monkey very much.

Prabhupada: So there are in Africa these men. They resemble that, what is called? That animal?

Pusta Krsna: Gorilla.

Prabhupada: Gorilla. So these men are still existing. But why from gorilla they do not come?

Pusta Krsna: They don't come from the gorilla.

Prabhupada: Africans, I have seen, they look like gorilla. So why now from gorilla the Africans or any black man is not coming? Then the question is the black man... We have got experience. The black man come. And wherefrom the white man came? Is there any white gorilla?

Pusta Krsna: No.

Prabhupada: No. Then white man, how did he come?

Harikesa: Well, sometimes there is a freak of nature, and the pigments that are in the skin...

Prabhupada: Simply it is for Darwin, "sometime." To support his rascaldom, nature has to serve him "sometimes. "Just see. We have to believe. Nature's law is the same, symmetrical. Nature is not obliged to serve Mr. Darwin, the rascal. Sometimes. He says, "sometimes." He did, and he knew it only and nobody knew. We have to believe that. Sometimes it was done, and it was revealed to Darwin. How he came to know? Nobody could understand. Only Darwin could understand? There was no other?

Pusta Krsna: They use the same argument against us, though, that... They use the same argument against us that so few people can understand God...

Prabhupada: No. We don't say like that. We say that God first spoke to sun-god, and sun-god spoke to his son, Manu, and Manu spoke to Iksvaku, Iksvaku spoke to his son. In this way are there. We don't say, "The God spoke to me." Evam parampara praptam, that is quite reasonable. God said to Brahma, and the Brahma said to Narada, Narada said to Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva said to others. In this way we should know. If my father said to my forefather... My forefather said to my father or my grandfather, and the same news is coming in family way, then where is the wrong? We don't say, "Darwin simply knew it." No, we don't say that. Evam parampara praptam. He was a rascal number one, all these scientists, the so-called scientists.

Pusta Krsna: But how can we prove Krsna scientifically?

Prabhupada: First of all let them prove their theory. Then we shall prove ours. We are proving. We have got our own way. But why they are speaking all this nonsense? First of all let him prove that he is genuine. Then our turn will be next. Ours is very easy. Krsna said to sun-god, and sun-god said to his son, his son, his son. It is coming like that. Where is the difficulty? Again Krsna says, "Now it is mismanaged. It is lost, so I am saying again to you Arjuna." So what Arjuna has understood, we are understanding the same way. How Arjuna understood it, that is written in the Bhagavad-gita. Where is the... We have no difficulty. But you jump over: "There is link," that "Once only from monkey came." What is this nonsense? We have to believe this? Has it any sense? And because Mr. Darwin is speaking we have to accept it? We cannot...

Harikesa: Well, certain changes take place. Just like when it is very hot, if you are in a hot climate all the time your blood thins.

Prabhupada: That's all right. No, no. This is not...

Harikesa: Well, if you take that further, all of these changes that mount up to some big physical change.

Prabhupada: No change is taken. The nature is working symmetrically always. The sun is rising in the morning. That is going on for million, million, million, millions of years.

Harikesa: Gradually the change has taken place in a very scientific way, step by step.

Prabhupada: What change has taken place?

Harikesa: First the hairs fell off...

Prabhupada: Morning... In the morning the sun rises on the eastern side. That is going on. What change has taken place? This flower, seasonal flower is... Now seasonal changes -- winter, summer, spring -- everything is going on symmetrically. There is no change. Because it is going on symmetrically, therefore we can say that February, next February will be very nice season here. Why? Because we have got experience last February, so we are certain the same thing will happen in the next February. Therefore we can say. There is no such change. Nature's way. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani. It is very symmetrical. Everything is going on nicely, nature's way.

Pusta Krsna: One of the strong points of Darwin's theory...

Prabhupada: I don't find. Simply foolishness I accept. And rascal, foolish like you, will believe. (laughter)

Pusta Krsna: They argue that five thousand years ago they have no history, so they think that before that time...

Prabhupada: "They think." That is their rascaldom.

Pusta Krsna: Formerly there was no civilization. Therefore like monkey.

Prabhupada: "They think." That is their... We don't "think." We have got millions of years' history. Why we shall think with them, with these rascals? They may think, the rascal. A child may think like something, but a elderly man will not think like that. Because they are thinking like that, we have to think with them?

Pusta Krsna: No.

Prabhupada: Then? Because the rascals are thinking in some way, we have to believe that? First of all let them prove that they are sane men. They are all insane rascals. Why shall I take their words? We are taking words from Krsna, who is accepted the Supreme by all the acaryas, all the great sages. Why shall I go to this rascal Darwin? We are not so fools. We cannot accept.

Harikesa: Well, the Bible is just some story. I mean, the Bible is just some story. Why should we believe that all of a sudden there was...

Prabhupada: No, Bible is not authorized because it was compiled after Jesus Christ finished.

Harikesa: No, the Bible was there... Old Testament has been there for thousands of years.

Prabhupada: Old Testament, but what is going on, Bible...

Harikesa: That Genesis, where it says the creation...

Prabhupada: That is another thing.

Harikesa: That's just some story. Why should we believe it? There's nothing else to believe. Why not believe this Darwin?

Prabhupada: No, but you are not believing Bible. Bible, they say that the earth is square. So nobody is believing. So one point is sufficient, that it is not perfect. One point is sufficient.

Harikesa: (laughing) It says the earth is square?

Prabhupada: Yes, they... They say it. Formerly they believed that.

Pusta Krsna: Probably does.

Harikesa: Oh, you mean flat.

Prabhupada: You'll fall down. If you go very far, you'll fall down. Just like a child thinks. Bible, so many have been proved not authorized. Therefore Bible is not authorized.

Harikesa: So we had this religion, and everybody was saying that this was the correct way, the official policy. So everybody knew this was nonsense. So Darwin is very scientific, so we accept the science.

Prabhupada: What is that science? He said, "By chance, once, nature came." Is that ... ? That is not science. We don't find, nature's way, by chance it comes. No. As soon as you talk something nonsense, your whole statement will be accepted as nonsense because you are nonsense. What is the value of your statement? This is our test. Once you say something nonsense, you are wholesale nonsense. That is our test. You cannot say, "I am sorry. It was incorrect," no. That is not allowed. Then your whole statement is incorrect. This is our... Harikesa: Scientists are always doing that. They're always saying that.

Prabhupada: Therefore they're all nonsense.

Harikesa: "Last year we made a mistake. Now it's all right."

Prabhupada: "Now we advance." And what is the guarantee that it is all right? You will advance again. That means you are always incorrect.

Harikesa: But people always think that it's always getting better.

Prabhupada: Therefore they are rascals. This is called maya. They remain rascal; still, they think that they are advancing.

Harikesa: Nobody thinks about that point, nobody.

Prabhupada: If everyone is rascal, how he will think? We say mudha, all rascals.

Pusta Krsna: But when the early scientists, they were analyzing the body, they tried to find the soul. They would look for the soul in different parts of the body. They couldn't find it with their microscopes.

Prabhupada: That's all right. That is his rascaldom. He's a rascal. But soul is there. Then find out what is the missing point of a dead man. If there is no soul, something is missing.

Harikesa: Well, actually they've pinned it down to a little bit of a molecule that breaks down.

Prabhupada: That's all right. Bring that molecule.

Harikesa: They're working on it.

Prabhupada: Huh? Again, "working on it." You see. This is bluff. This is bluff.

Harikesa: Now they are inventing these different DNA and RNA molecules to change people by injecting them with these different things before they are born, making new people.

Prabhupada: That is not very difficult thing. If you make some vegetable, if you add more sugar it becomes sweet. If you add more salt it becomes salty. That you can do. That is not very difficult. Our question is wherefrom the life comes? That is our... So they do not give any answer to this. That is their foolishness. What is that life? They say life developed from chemical. Now do it. By chemical combination make in one egg and give it to the fomenting machine. What is that? Fomenting machine? They have got heating machine?

Harikesa: Incubator.

Prabhupada: Incubator. Put it there. Then we shall accept your science. Why don't you do that? Then your all theories are useless. This is practical.

Harikesa: It seems much more practical to make a computer than to make an egg. I mean, a computer...

Prabhupada: Whatever it may be, do it. And from that egg, you get chicken. Then I shall accept that you are scientist. Otherwise you are rascal, talking all madman's proposal. Do it. Ask them. Write in the paper that "Prabhupada was speaking like that, a challenge to the scientist: ‘Is there any scientist who can make an egg which is put in the incubator and gradually it comes to become ...'"

Harikesa: They will think we are completely crazy.

Prabhupada: Huh? Well, then kick on their face, on their nose, rascal. We are crazy or you are crazy?

Harikesa: But who wants to make eggs?

Prabhupada: Huh? No, no, it is an experiment. You say life comes from chemical. So by chemical combination make an egg and do it. Begin from this. Then we shall see others. This is very easy. If you have already analyzed the yellow portion of the egg, the white portion of the egg and that outer plastering can be done. Nowadays there is... What is called?

Harikesa: Plastic.

Prabhupada: Plastic. It can be done. Do it.

Pusta Krsna: Make a chicken.

Prabhupada: Yes. Make a chicken or so many birds. If not chicken, make a sparrow. Do something. Do something. Why you should be misled by them, these rascals? Challenge him. Challenge them publicly that "These rascals are misleading. Don't accept them. They're simply misleading."

Harikesa: Well, they're the best we have. They're the best we have. We have nobody. Who else is going to take care of us?

Prabhupada: No, at least... We ... just like we challenge, they cannot give answer. This should be proved. Then they will be proved that they are rascals.

Harikesa: The whole scientific craze seems to be settling down anyway. It seems to be dying down.

Prabhupada: It must die. The scientists, they admit now, "What we shall do? We have bluffed in so many ways. Now what is the next bluffing?" Their bluff, last bluffing, was going to the moon planet, and everything is failed. Then what is next bluffing? That is their problem, how to keep their big, big post?

Harikesa: There's nothing left to do.

Prabhupada: Yes. They have finished all their theories. Still, they could not do anything. This is their position. (break) Margarine is also another bluff. It is oil; it is taken as ghee, er, butter.

Harikesa: They say it's very healthy for you.

Prabhupada: They will say.

Harikesa: It doesn't have all those cholesterols.

Prabhupada: Otherwise how they will sell? They will say. They will present anything nonsense in flowery language, and people will be cheated. That's all.

Harikesa: Americans can't stand this butter and ghee. When we cook in these pure things like ghee, they become very upset.

Prabhupada: Because meat-eaters.

Harikesa: If it's not impure they don't like it.

Prabhupada: Meat-eaters cannot digest ghee. Therefore in America, all of a sudden change of diet in our..., their stomach become upset. Just like animal, dogs, they cannot eat this ghee preparation.

Pusta Krsna: They can't take it.

Prabhupada: They can't take it. So these meat-eaters, like dogs, they cannot digest. (break)

Pusta Krsna: In our philosophy, how did man come about? They'll ask us what is our philosophy how man came about.

Prabhupada: Man came from man. The first man is Brahma. From him came. And Brahma came from Narayana, Visnu. So this is easy. Brahma appeared from Visnu.

Pusta Krsna: So the first created being was a man.

Prabhupada: Yes, Brahma, a first-class man.

Pusta Krsna: Even before the plants. Even before the plants.

Prabhupada: Yes, because man can create everything.

Pusta Krsna: That means Genesis in the Bible is wrong, because they say that first there were plants and then trees and then after man came.

Harikesa: No, first they say that there was a man did that.

Prabhupada: They say Adam and Eve.

Pusta Krsna: But they say first that the plants and the fish and the trees and the birds...

Prabhupada: Then Adam, Eve.

Pusta Krsna: Then, afterwards, that after creating so many things, the plants and the trees, God was still lonely.

Prabhupada: Brahma ... Brahma, when he was created, he was in darkness. He could not see anything. "What to do? What ... ? Why I am?" Then he tapasya, meditation. Then he was given intelligence. Then, gradually, everything...

Harikesa: It seems that the Christians' idea of God is our idea of Brahma. Their God is like Brahma. He's just a creator.

Prabhupada: What is their idea? I do not know.

Pusta Krsna: Their idea is that in the beginning there was darkness until God created the light. Then he created the different heavenly planets and the oceans and the inanimate things. Then He created...

Prabhupada: Then it is like Brahma.

Harikesa: It is like Brahma. And their heaven and hell is like the upper and lower planetary systems. It's all little bit of knowledge.

Prabhupada: Little difference, maybe, but the basic...

Pusta Krsna: They say that Adam was created...

Prabhupada: Then their God created. God created. So that is all right. We also say God created Brahma.

Pusta Krsna: Then they say that woman was created from a rib of Adam.

Prabhupada: That is also correct. That is also possible. Created from God, so that is accepted. The description may be little different. That doesn't matter. But God is the origin of all creation. If that is accepted, this is nice.

Harikesa: They also have this Noah and his ark thing, where all the earth became covered with water.

Prabhupada: Devastation.

Harikesa: It's like a Matsya avatara.

Prabhupada: So that is acceptable. Description may be little different. That doesn't matter. But God is the origin. Vedanta-sutra also says, janmady asya yatah, that "Absolute Truth is that from where everything comes." And the Bible, it is said, "God created this earth." So that is acceptable. Then Darwin says that all of a sudden a man was created. Wherefrom it came out? What is the first creation according to Darwin?

Harikesa: Very small microbes. And then they developed to many-celled animals and amoebas and...

Prabhupada: So how this microbe was created?

Harikesa: Spontaneous generation.

Prabhupada: Spontaneous? And it is known to you only, Mr. Darwin? You are the only intelligent man. You could understand. And you are talking so foolish, and still, we have to accept it. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- Durban, October 13, 1975 (New-2003)





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