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Gaura Purnima is a "festival of Sadhu Sanga"- oppurtunity for association with worldwide preachers who undertake all kinds of risks for broadcasting the glories of holy dham in every corner of the world.
Bg 3.29
Gaura Purnima is a "festival of Sadhu Sanga"- oppurtunity for association with worldwide preachers who undertake all kinds of risks for broadcasting the glories of holy dham in every corner of the world.
"Men who are ignorant cannot appreciate activities in Krsna consciousness, and therefore Lord Krsna advises us not to disturb them and simply waste valuable time. But the devotees of the Lord are more kind than the Lord because they understand the purpose of the Lord. Consequently they undertake all kinds of risks, even to the point of approaching ignorant men to try to engage them in the acts of Krsna consciousness, which are absolutely necessary for the human being." Ref. VedaBase .
Bg 3.29
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Should We Publicly Preach Against and Crush Sahajiyaism?, de Gaurahari Das
Devotee comment: One Prominent Guru said "There is a wave of sahajiyaism coming to the Western world and you must preach against this misconception." What did he mean, "a wave of sahajiyaism is coming to the Western world?" Sahajiyaism we know means to imitate. Imitate ecstasy, imitate the behavior of exalted Vaisnavas, to take things cheaply by not following the four regulative principles and the recommended process of devotional service -- these practices are sahajiya. We have read about these things in Srila Prabhupada's books and we are no doubt aware of the shortcomings of sahajiya tendencies-or are we?
Gaurahari das: Since the devotees have developed the willies about Sahajiyaism its important to know that this is also a path of mixed bhakti yoga for those who are at this level of qualification of incompatible mixing of spiritual and material mellows, a kind of rasa basa. Our Acaryas teach us to beware of this path. We and should use this confidential information given by the Acaryas, as recommended by Bhaktivinode thakura in Sri Krishna Samitha, for our own advancement, the advancement of our own disciples who have faith in what we teach, and not go on a public witch burning mission criticizing and disturbing their dealings within their particular societies. This is the way that Bhaktivinode thakura mentioned to use the confidential information of the Vedas, for our own advancement to a higher level and the advancement of our close disciples. Swans don’t Judge and criticize other societies who are have various levels of devotional qualifications. Leave the occasional criticism to the powerful Acaryas, because when we do it we still have fear and hatred mixed in and create unnecessary disturbances and offenses to these various societies. Obviously, for us who are inspired by the clear sighted Gaudiya Acaryas it would be well for us to remain at a respectful distance from such devotees until we are so powerful in our bhakti development that we can contribute to the advancement of even their society in a way that pleases their Guru and Krishna, if Krishna considers such a contribution welcome. There is no need to cause a disturbances to these societies by judging them harshly and publicly.
In my own experience I know a very dedicated new age sahajiya type devotee who has a new lady on his arm regularly. He really likes Krishna and he likes his ladies. He is dedicated and he is mixed in his dedication. Who isn’t now days? He is like a guru and attracts certain types of new age creative like persons who would never be attracted to any of our more standard vaishnava sangas. They get together and chant the hare Krishna and love it. In this way he is inspired, authorized and serving Krishna’s purpose to advance those who have this level of qualification. They are making progress according to their capacity and ability to understand Bhakti Yoga. Krishna has already spontaneously sent us two devotees from his sanga to share with them what we understand about Krishna consciousness. In this practical way,in knowledge one does not publicly denigrate and disturb the teachers and the developing societies of others. We use this confidential information for our selves and like minded associates striving to advance to a higher level of bhakti. In this approach recommended by Bhaktivinode Thakur one becomes peaceful and swanlike. The criticism, fighting stops, the respect and honoring of all Vaishnavas societies starts, and our chanting of the Maha Mantra becomes increasingly devotionally ecstatic! This is the vision Bhaktivinode Thakur was advocating that Vaishnavas gradually adopt as they mature to make the transition from bumbling asslike critics and faultfinders to expert appropiate swans working more sensitively in alignment with Krishna’s deeper connected, inclusive not excluded disconnected vision.
Gaurahari das: Since the devotees have developed the willies about Sahajiyaism its important to know that this is also a path of mixed bhakti yoga for those who are at this level of qualification of incompatible mixing of spiritual and material mellows, a kind of rasa basa. Our Acaryas teach us to beware of this path. We and should use this confidential information given by the Acaryas, as recommended by Bhaktivinode thakura in Sri Krishna Samitha, for our own advancement, the advancement of our own disciples who have faith in what we teach, and not go on a public witch burning mission criticizing and disturbing their dealings within their particular societies. This is the way that Bhaktivinode thakura mentioned to use the confidential information of the Vedas, for our own advancement to a higher level and the advancement of our close disciples. Swans don’t Judge and criticize other societies who are have various levels of devotional qualifications. Leave the occasional criticism to the powerful Acaryas, because when we do it we still have fear and hatred mixed in and create unnecessary disturbances and offenses to these various societies. Obviously, for us who are inspired by the clear sighted Gaudiya Acaryas it would be well for us to remain at a respectful distance from such devotees until we are so powerful in our bhakti development that we can contribute to the advancement of even their society in a way that pleases their Guru and Krishna, if Krishna considers such a contribution welcome. There is no need to cause a disturbances to these societies by judging them harshly and publicly.
In my own experience I know a very dedicated new age sahajiya type devotee who has a new lady on his arm regularly. He really likes Krishna and he likes his ladies. He is dedicated and he is mixed in his dedication. Who isn’t now days? He is like a guru and attracts certain types of new age creative like persons who would never be attracted to any of our more standard vaishnava sangas. They get together and chant the hare Krishna and love it. In this way he is inspired, authorized and serving Krishna’s purpose to advance those who have this level of qualification. They are making progress according to their capacity and ability to understand Bhakti Yoga. Krishna has already spontaneously sent us two devotees from his sanga to share with them what we understand about Krishna consciousness. In this practical way,in knowledge one does not publicly denigrate and disturb the teachers and the developing societies of others. We use this confidential information for our selves and like minded associates striving to advance to a higher level of bhakti. In this approach recommended by Bhaktivinode Thakur one becomes peaceful and swanlike. The criticism, fighting stops, the respect and honoring of all Vaishnavas societies starts, and our chanting of the Maha Mantra becomes increasingly devotionally ecstatic! This is the vision Bhaktivinode Thakur was advocating that Vaishnavas gradually adopt as they mature to make the transition from bumbling asslike critics and faultfinders to expert appropiate swans working more sensitively in alignment with Krishna’s deeper connected, inclusive not excluded disconnected vision.
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MM to do bad things knowingly an ask forgiveness isnt good.so lets at least hope you are genuinely asking for forgiveness.what else can be expected when u r following bhogus gurus.this attitude to do bad an then ask forgiveness is a joke.
Yuga Avatar Das
Sorry alexis kriel ,i have tried to help this very disturbed devotee whom has wondered of the path,yes you can find fault with me.....however i am doing my duty by giving shelter to those whom are intelligent enough.You need to learn the sanctioned process of approaching elder devotees,so they want to give there blessings.However for you also ... Ver másalexis kriel,please forgive me for any offenses i have performed towards you either consciously or blindly performed out of ignorance in the past!My life by the way you now nothing about!......
Vinode Vani Dasi
TMI. Back to the point of Gaura Hari's note, please. Hare Krsna.
Yuga Avatar Das
my dear alexis kreil,I am a sankirtan devotee of australasian yatra,presently i am training up my second son in wellington new Zealand.We are selling paraphenalia to help support our preaching.It is winter here,5 degrees only and we are very determined to liberate laxsmi devi from the demons.....i have done this service for over twenty five years ... Ver másfor my gurus and senior vaisnavas within the iskcon society.I have helped to finance melbourne,sydney,new govardhana ,colo river and auckland temples which my godbrothers and our generation financed and payed for .i live literally on the ground underneath tables....7 days a week.So that my team of devotees will see i am not a cheater, i do more austerity so they will do the same!!Apart from eating prasadam ,my only dreams are to see iskcon bloom and grow to benedict the kaliyuga demons!....now you know sometyhing about me alexis kreil....hopefully we might be freinds...yuga!
Yuga Avatar Das
Thank you vinoda dasi,actually i was very disturbed and amazed at realising that a certain gaudiya guru had infact taken siksa guidance from sahajiya and caste brahmana gurus!Hence when i learnt more i found that he had also changed signifigant essential understandings which i felt he was not qualified or suitably empowqered to do!Previously many ... Ver másdevotees from the Sri chaitanya saraswati matha had tried to get me involved because they felt it was my warrior mentality that they lacked to counter what they saw as intrusions,or at least start a defence against what a few said was sahajiyaism!However being out of touch i felt i needed to come up to speed.Which i have now done.
Yuga Avatar Das
I was introduced to their history of certain events that took place,specifically concerning a rathyatra performed by bv narayanna maharajas devotees in mayapura....1969 i think was the year!I am scratchy on the events however and explosion of offences took place as a consequence,the two gaudiya lines are literally mortal enemies.The end result was ... Ver másthat narayanna maharaja published offences towards Sridhar swami...which his followers today are extremely upset about!He has refused to apologise....as a consequence he has become very defiant towards an uttama adhikara devotee ,whom is superior in nature and quality.but also an archarya of signifigance.Most of these things i have read are not for general devotee consumption....however the end result was that there was a forming of camps and factions.Those whom sought to adhere to the line of teachings propounded by Srila Bhaktivinoda takura Prabhupada and his son Srila Bhaktisiddanta saraswati takura Prabhupada ,on the otherside those whose mood had been changed and as a result had thrown aside the shackles of constraint and had embraced and sought to change the basis of the gaudiya siddhanta.Which his grace narayanna maharaja has endeavoured to do by openly changing and allowing neophyte bhaktas to read and discuss not just krishna katha but ''gopi katha''.This drew others from outside these maths to become intimately involved...including iskcon and the foremost archarya our times Sri puri maharaja...whom wrote this article which everyone should try and digest according to their devotional ability.
Yuga Avatar Das
During my last visit to Sridhama Mayapura I had the great fortune of getting the darsana of Srila Bhaktipramode Puri Maharaja. Now ninety-seven years old, he was an affectionate friend and godbrother of both Srila Sridhara Maharaja and Srila Prabhupada. Srila Puri Maharaja joined the mission of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura in 1922 and ... Ver máshas been an active preacher in Lord Chaitanya's sankirtana movement ever since. We discussed many transcendental topics with Srila Puri Maharaja and were very happy to see his mood of extreme reverence for Srila Sridhara Maharaja, Srila Prabhupada, the holy name, the Vaisnavas, and the teachings of Mahaprabhu. Most of all we were very touched at heart by his deep humility and gentle dealings.
One evening as we sat at Srila Puri Maharaja's lotus feet hearing about what it means to be a genuine Vaisnava, we were astounded when suddenly Srila Puri Maharaja said, "There is a wave of sahajiyaism coming to the Western world and you must preach against this misconception." What did he mean, "a wave of sahajiyaism is coming to the Western world?" Sahajiyaism we know means to imitate. Imitate ecstasy, imitate the behavior of exalted Vaisnavas, to take things cheaply by not following the four regulative principles and the recommended process of devotional service -- these practices are sahajiya. We have read about these things in Srila Prabhupada's books and we are no doubt aware of the shortcomings of sahajiya tendencies-or are we?
"There is a wave of sahajiyaism coming to the Western world and you must preach against this misconception."
If a man comes to your temple or your house dressed in a sari, wearing a nose-ring, chanting Hare Krsna and rolling on the ground with tears of ecstasy in his eyes -- well -- you probably will recognize his sahajiya tendencies and reject his association. But beyond these gross manifestations of sahajiyaism do we actually understand what a sahajiya is and how to avoid sahajiya tendencies? Apparently not, or Srila Puri Maharaja would not have mentioned it so strongly.
Further discussions with Srila Puri Maharaja revealed what he meant. Not only will the Caste Goswamis, Gauranagaris, Aula, Baula, Sakhi-bhekis, Daravesa, Sani, Smartas, Ativadi, Cudadhari, Prakrta Sahajiya, and many other worthless schools of imitation come to spread their nonsense in the West, but members of our own sampradaya are already introducing sahajiyaism. They are doing this in the name of raganuga-bhakti.
Raganuga-bhakti, the topic for the 90s -- what is it, and how do you do it? Srila Puri Maharaja stressed that if a sannyasi or a brahmacari thinks that he has become a raganuga bhakta or a rasika and wants to hear about the confidential lila of Krsna and the gopis without first having the proper qualifications, he runs the risk of becoming a woman with a mundane body in his next life!
But shouldn't we aspire for the highest truth, rasamanandam ? It is a tricky question. We must move in the direction of truth, and we must have proper knowledge -- yet at the same time we must exercise great caution. To want to know everything about Krsna-lila is a defect and it will cause us to fall down. It is to our advantage to always seek a lower position as a servant. This is the spirit we find in Ragunatha dasa Goswami's Vilap-kusamanjali. In this book our prayojana-tattva-acarya is praying for service, not entertainment.
Srila Prabhupada did not often discuss higher topics with his disciples, and certainly never with the general public. Yet he no doubt wanted his disciples to experience the highest esoteric reality of Gaudiya Vaisnavism. From the very beginning of his preaching campaign, he informed his disciples of the sadhya, the goal of our perfection. Later, however, he held back from discussing higher topics having understood our lack of qualification.
As early as 1967 Srila Prabhupada told one of his disciples the story of Jayadeva Goswami's writing the Gita-Govinda. Dehi pada pallavam udaram. This verse was spoken by Lord Krsna to Srimati Radharani during their intimate conversations. Here with great urgency and necessity Krsna begs for the pardon of Srimati Radharani, "Please forgive me and place your lotus feet on my head." This is a most high and esoteric concept -- that Krsna himself is declaring the exalted position of Srimati Radharani as the supermost worshippable object. This kind of thinking is not possible for beginners -- the neophytes cannot conceive of such an exalted position. How is it possible? The whole world is searching for Krsna: all the yogis, munis, and sages. Even Brahma, Siva, and Visnu desire the darsana of Krsna, but Krsna is begging for the mercy of Srimati Radharani. Just see how great she is!
When Srila Prabhupada uttered this verse, he began to feel great ecstatic emotions within but he checked himself for the benefit of his disciple. While describing the love affairs between Radha and Krsna, Jayadeva thought of these words, dehi pada pallavam udaram. When this happened Jayadeva was astonished, "What is this! How has such a thought entered my mind? I cannot write such a thing. How is it possible?"
Jayadeva could not conceive of such a thing. How could Krsna, the Supreme Lord, ask for the feet of Srimati Radharani to be placed on his head? Jayadeva had great devotion and love for Krsna as the topmost supreme entity therefore it was not appropriate for Krsna to utter such words. Jayadeva could not bring himself to write such a verse. He began to tremble and the pen fell from his hand.
Feeling somewhat disturbed, Jayadeva decided to go to the Ganges for bath. Jayadeva informed his wife. "O good wife, I shall go to the Ganges for bath. Please prepare my meal and have it ready when I return." Jayadeva then left the house and started for the Ganges. A short time later Jayadeva returned to the house and requested his wife to immediately serve prasadam, as he was very hungry. Jayadeva's wife then served her husband after which Jayadeva returned to his study and began writing.
As is the custom in India, Jayadeva's wife then sat down after her husband had
One evening as we sat at Srila Puri Maharaja's lotus feet hearing about what it means to be a genuine Vaisnava, we were astounded when suddenly Srila Puri Maharaja said, "There is a wave of sahajiyaism coming to the Western world and you must preach against this misconception." What did he mean, "a wave of sahajiyaism is coming to the Western world?" Sahajiyaism we know means to imitate. Imitate ecstasy, imitate the behavior of exalted Vaisnavas, to take things cheaply by not following the four regulative principles and the recommended process of devotional service -- these practices are sahajiya. We have read about these things in Srila Prabhupada's books and we are no doubt aware of the shortcomings of sahajiya tendencies-or are we?
"There is a wave of sahajiyaism coming to the Western world and you must preach against this misconception."
If a man comes to your temple or your house dressed in a sari, wearing a nose-ring, chanting Hare Krsna and rolling on the ground with tears of ecstasy in his eyes -- well -- you probably will recognize his sahajiya tendencies and reject his association. But beyond these gross manifestations of sahajiyaism do we actually understand what a sahajiya is and how to avoid sahajiya tendencies? Apparently not, or Srila Puri Maharaja would not have mentioned it so strongly.
Further discussions with Srila Puri Maharaja revealed what he meant. Not only will the Caste Goswamis, Gauranagaris, Aula, Baula, Sakhi-bhekis, Daravesa, Sani, Smartas, Ativadi, Cudadhari, Prakrta Sahajiya, and many other worthless schools of imitation come to spread their nonsense in the West, but members of our own sampradaya are already introducing sahajiyaism. They are doing this in the name of raganuga-bhakti.
Raganuga-bhakti, the topic for the 90s -- what is it, and how do you do it? Srila Puri Maharaja stressed that if a sannyasi or a brahmacari thinks that he has become a raganuga bhakta or a rasika and wants to hear about the confidential lila of Krsna and the gopis without first having the proper qualifications, he runs the risk of becoming a woman with a mundane body in his next life!
But shouldn't we aspire for the highest truth, rasamanandam ? It is a tricky question. We must move in the direction of truth, and we must have proper knowledge -- yet at the same time we must exercise great caution. To want to know everything about Krsna-lila is a defect and it will cause us to fall down. It is to our advantage to always seek a lower position as a servant. This is the spirit we find in Ragunatha dasa Goswami's Vilap-kusamanjali. In this book our prayojana-tattva-acarya is praying for service, not entertainment.
Srila Prabhupada did not often discuss higher topics with his disciples, and certainly never with the general public. Yet he no doubt wanted his disciples to experience the highest esoteric reality of Gaudiya Vaisnavism. From the very beginning of his preaching campaign, he informed his disciples of the sadhya, the goal of our perfection. Later, however, he held back from discussing higher topics having understood our lack of qualification.
As early as 1967 Srila Prabhupada told one of his disciples the story of Jayadeva Goswami's writing the Gita-Govinda. Dehi pada pallavam udaram. This verse was spoken by Lord Krsna to Srimati Radharani during their intimate conversations. Here with great urgency and necessity Krsna begs for the pardon of Srimati Radharani, "Please forgive me and place your lotus feet on my head." This is a most high and esoteric concept -- that Krsna himself is declaring the exalted position of Srimati Radharani as the supermost worshippable object. This kind of thinking is not possible for beginners -- the neophytes cannot conceive of such an exalted position. How is it possible? The whole world is searching for Krsna: all the yogis, munis, and sages. Even Brahma, Siva, and Visnu desire the darsana of Krsna, but Krsna is begging for the mercy of Srimati Radharani. Just see how great she is!
When Srila Prabhupada uttered this verse, he began to feel great ecstatic emotions within but he checked himself for the benefit of his disciple. While describing the love affairs between Radha and Krsna, Jayadeva thought of these words, dehi pada pallavam udaram. When this happened Jayadeva was astonished, "What is this! How has such a thought entered my mind? I cannot write such a thing. How is it possible?"
Jayadeva could not conceive of such a thing. How could Krsna, the Supreme Lord, ask for the feet of Srimati Radharani to be placed on his head? Jayadeva had great devotion and love for Krsna as the topmost supreme entity therefore it was not appropriate for Krsna to utter such words. Jayadeva could not bring himself to write such a verse. He began to tremble and the pen fell from his hand.
Feeling somewhat disturbed, Jayadeva decided to go to the Ganges for bath. Jayadeva informed his wife. "O good wife, I shall go to the Ganges for bath. Please prepare my meal and have it ready when I return." Jayadeva then left the house and started for the Ganges. A short time later Jayadeva returned to the house and requested his wife to immediately serve prasadam, as he was very hungry. Jayadeva's wife then served her husband after which Jayadeva returned to his study and began writing.
As is the custom in India, Jayadeva's wife then sat down after her husband had
Yuga Avatar Das
This essay is called the secret of prema....Bhaktiprimode PURI MAHARAJA.....Feeling somewhat disturbed, Jayadeva decided to go to the Ganges for bath. Jayadeva informed his wife. "O good wife, I shall go to the Ganges for bath. Please prepare my meal and have it ready when I return." Jayadeva then left the house and started for the Ganges. A short ... Ver mástime later Jayadeva returned to the house and requested his wife to immediately serve prasadam, as he was very hungry. Jayadeva's wife then served her husband after which Jayadeva returned to his study and began writing.
As is the custom in India, Jayadeva's wife then sat down after her husband had eaten and began to take her prasadam. Suddenly Jayadeva appeared at the doorway of his house and began to call for his wife requesting her to serve prasadam as he was very hungry. Astonished to hear such a thing, Jayadeva's wife informed her husband, "My most respected husband, upon returning from the Ganges you have already taken your meal and in turn I have already taken my prasadam. After that you went to your study and continued your writing. Why do you now say that you are very hungry and that you want to take prasadam?"
Hearing this Jayadeva was bewildered and unable to understand the strange behavior of his wife. Upon entering his study, Jayadeva became even more astonished when he saw that the verse that he had hesitated to write was now written on the manuscript in his own handwriting. Krsna himself had come to complete the verse. Krsna had wanted Jayadeva to disclose this most inconceivable truth but he hesitated, so Krsna did it himself. "O Sri Radha, your holy lotus feet are very kind and generous. The burning poison of Kamadeva, which is always pressing me, will be finished if you place your lotus feet on my head. Only you can save me."
Although Srila Prabhupada described this pastime and its significance as early in his mission as 1967, he never again uttered this verse during the remaining ten years of his preaching mission until 1977. At that time, he spoke the same verse while chastising a film producer who came to get his blessing for producing a film on "Krsna-lila. " Srila Prabhupada was outspoken and firm -- he had no intention of ever blessing such a project. And his reasons were obvious --"who will understand your film production?"
It is now 1995. How and when will we ever realize the significance of Jayadeva's realization? Shall we just chant and be happy, waiting for everything to descend? Yet "chant and be happy" is both the most basic and the highest instruction at the same time, for as Srila Puri Maharaja explained, "There is no possibility of ever experiencing Krsna-prema without chanting purely." Through harinama all good fortune will come to us in due course. What about reading about rasa-tattva ? Srila Puri Maharaja instructed us thus: "Such books must be read with the spirit of crushing lust and greed." Without this, such reading will be counterproductive. It will serve only as the uddipana of the sthayi-bhava of our material life. "These books," he said, "are not to be read for entertainment."
To guide us in our approach to the upper world, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura has composed a nice verse that recommends that the highest aspirations in our bhajana life be kept overhead:
pujala ragapata gaurava bangemattala sadhu jana visaya range
The path of divine love is worshippable to us and should be held overhead as our highest aspiration.
To exemplify this idea of keeping the highest ideals above our heads, Srila Sridhara Maharaja often spoke of how Srila Saraswati Thakura wanted to reside at Govardhana rather than at Radha-kunda. "I am not fit to live in Radha-kunda. So I shall live in a lower position, but my gurus -- Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, and others -- are fit to serve there. So I shall go and serve them there in Radha-kunda, and then return to a little lower position, in Govardhana. There I shall stay."
First deserve, then desire. To discuss confidential topics about Krsna-nama and Krsna's rasa-lila in the presence of persons who do not have the required adhikari, or qualification, constitutes an aparadha, an offense: asraddadhane vimukhe 'py asrnvati. Offenses of this kind must be avoided by one who wants to progress in Krsna consciousness. But the higher subject matters must be discussed -- they are not forbidden. For this discussion to be proper there must be a qualified speaker and a qualified listener.
Srila Prabhupada's example is pertinent. Although Srila Prabhupada was internally relishing the confidential truths regarding Gaudiya Vaisnavism, he was very discrete about openly discussing such truths even among his most qualified disciples. Although outwardly not discussing the esoteric pastimes of Krsna, internally Srila Prabhupada was fully conscious of the sublime mellows of love of God. Like his spiritual master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura, outwardly Srila Prabhupada worshipped the way of divine love with grandeur, awe, and reverence, but his object was that of the simple and beautiful divine love of Vrndavana.
A devotee who internally relishes the transcendental pastimes of Radha and Krsna is called a rasika-bhakta. One must approach such higher devotees sooner or later to realize the inner truth of Krsna consciousness, ghuyam akhyati prcchati. Yet even if we are qualified to do so, we are still posed with a further problem. How do we tell the difference between a rasika acarya and a sahajiya?
I think it is safe to say without objection from our readers that Srila Prabhupada was a rasika-acarya. As such we can get a glimpse into the symptoms of rasika-bhaktas from his example and learn further about the proper approach to the higher subject matter by observing the mood of his presentation.
There is no possibility of ever experiencing Krsna-prema without chanting purely.
Although keeping everything within-not allowing his ecstasy to manifest on the external plane -- the depth to which Srila Prabhupada relished Krsna consciousness would sometimes become revealed in something he did or said. For the most part, however, his internal mood was couched within his dress as a world acarya, as jagat-guru, as a humble servant of his spiritual master and a preacher of Bhagavad-gita As It Is. In this way Srila Prabhupada was constantly engaged in kirtana and preaching for the benefit of the fallen conditioned souls. Keeping Srila Prabhupada's example in mind, we must simultaneously remember that Srila Prabhupada is not the only rasika bhakta, and they do not all act entirely the same way
very different example of a rasika bhakta is that of Pundarika Vidyanidhi. Whenever Pundarika Vidyanidhi happened to hear the topics of Krsna-lila, he would become overwhelmed with ecstasy and exhibit sattvika-bhavas, such as trembling, faltering of the voice, shedding tears, fainting, rolling on the ground, and speaking like a madman. Seeing these extraordinary bodily manifestations of love of God, one who knows the science of love of God can understand something about the exalted position of Pundarika Vidyanidhi. Outwardly he appeared very ordinary, if not materialistic, but inwardly he was a devotee of the highest caliber. Of the highest caliber to say the least-he was the incarnation of King Vrsabhanu, the father of Srimati Radharani.
Thus to understand the internal workings of a rasika devotee is not an easy matter -- vaisnavera kriya-mudra vijne na bujhaya. But we must try if we are to make progress. What shall be our guiding light? Ultimately, we must move according to our faith. Yet enlightened faith is required, not blind faith. Scripture is there to guide us, sastra caksus. A discriminating devotee, madhyama adhikari, must make such determinations. Such determinations, however, must be based on a thorough understanding of the revealed scripture, lest one prematurely condemn the rasika b
As is the custom in India, Jayadeva's wife then sat down after her husband had eaten and began to take her prasadam. Suddenly Jayadeva appeared at the doorway of his house and began to call for his wife requesting her to serve prasadam as he was very hungry. Astonished to hear such a thing, Jayadeva's wife informed her husband, "My most respected husband, upon returning from the Ganges you have already taken your meal and in turn I have already taken my prasadam. After that you went to your study and continued your writing. Why do you now say that you are very hungry and that you want to take prasadam?"
Hearing this Jayadeva was bewildered and unable to understand the strange behavior of his wife. Upon entering his study, Jayadeva became even more astonished when he saw that the verse that he had hesitated to write was now written on the manuscript in his own handwriting. Krsna himself had come to complete the verse. Krsna had wanted Jayadeva to disclose this most inconceivable truth but he hesitated, so Krsna did it himself. "O Sri Radha, your holy lotus feet are very kind and generous. The burning poison of Kamadeva, which is always pressing me, will be finished if you place your lotus feet on my head. Only you can save me."
Although Srila Prabhupada described this pastime and its significance as early in his mission as 1967, he never again uttered this verse during the remaining ten years of his preaching mission until 1977. At that time, he spoke the same verse while chastising a film producer who came to get his blessing for producing a film on "Krsna-lila. " Srila Prabhupada was outspoken and firm -- he had no intention of ever blessing such a project. And his reasons were obvious --"who will understand your film production?"
It is now 1995. How and when will we ever realize the significance of Jayadeva's realization? Shall we just chant and be happy, waiting for everything to descend? Yet "chant and be happy" is both the most basic and the highest instruction at the same time, for as Srila Puri Maharaja explained, "There is no possibility of ever experiencing Krsna-prema without chanting purely." Through harinama all good fortune will come to us in due course. What about reading about rasa-tattva ? Srila Puri Maharaja instructed us thus: "Such books must be read with the spirit of crushing lust and greed." Without this, such reading will be counterproductive. It will serve only as the uddipana of the sthayi-bhava of our material life. "These books," he said, "are not to be read for entertainment."
To guide us in our approach to the upper world, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura has composed a nice verse that recommends that the highest aspirations in our bhajana life be kept overhead:
pujala ragapata gaurava bangemattala sadhu jana visaya range
The path of divine love is worshippable to us and should be held overhead as our highest aspiration.
To exemplify this idea of keeping the highest ideals above our heads, Srila Sridhara Maharaja often spoke of how Srila Saraswati Thakura wanted to reside at Govardhana rather than at Radha-kunda. "I am not fit to live in Radha-kunda. So I shall live in a lower position, but my gurus -- Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, and others -- are fit to serve there. So I shall go and serve them there in Radha-kunda, and then return to a little lower position, in Govardhana. There I shall stay."
First deserve, then desire. To discuss confidential topics about Krsna-nama and Krsna's rasa-lila in the presence of persons who do not have the required adhikari, or qualification, constitutes an aparadha, an offense: asraddadhane vimukhe 'py asrnvati. Offenses of this kind must be avoided by one who wants to progress in Krsna consciousness. But the higher subject matters must be discussed -- they are not forbidden. For this discussion to be proper there must be a qualified speaker and a qualified listener.
Srila Prabhupada's example is pertinent. Although Srila Prabhupada was internally relishing the confidential truths regarding Gaudiya Vaisnavism, he was very discrete about openly discussing such truths even among his most qualified disciples. Although outwardly not discussing the esoteric pastimes of Krsna, internally Srila Prabhupada was fully conscious of the sublime mellows of love of God. Like his spiritual master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura, outwardly Srila Prabhupada worshipped the way of divine love with grandeur, awe, and reverence, but his object was that of the simple and beautiful divine love of Vrndavana.
A devotee who internally relishes the transcendental pastimes of Radha and Krsna is called a rasika-bhakta. One must approach such higher devotees sooner or later to realize the inner truth of Krsna consciousness, ghuyam akhyati prcchati. Yet even if we are qualified to do so, we are still posed with a further problem. How do we tell the difference between a rasika acarya and a sahajiya?
I think it is safe to say without objection from our readers that Srila Prabhupada was a rasika-acarya. As such we can get a glimpse into the symptoms of rasika-bhaktas from his example and learn further about the proper approach to the higher subject matter by observing the mood of his presentation.
There is no possibility of ever experiencing Krsna-prema without chanting purely.
Although keeping everything within-not allowing his ecstasy to manifest on the external plane -- the depth to which Srila Prabhupada relished Krsna consciousness would sometimes become revealed in something he did or said. For the most part, however, his internal mood was couched within his dress as a world acarya, as jagat-guru, as a humble servant of his spiritual master and a preacher of Bhagavad-gita As It Is. In this way Srila Prabhupada was constantly engaged in kirtana and preaching for the benefit of the fallen conditioned souls. Keeping Srila Prabhupada's example in mind, we must simultaneously remember that Srila Prabhupada is not the only rasika bhakta, and they do not all act entirely the same way
very different example of a rasika bhakta is that of Pundarika Vidyanidhi. Whenever Pundarika Vidyanidhi happened to hear the topics of Krsna-lila, he would become overwhelmed with ecstasy and exhibit sattvika-bhavas, such as trembling, faltering of the voice, shedding tears, fainting, rolling on the ground, and speaking like a madman. Seeing these extraordinary bodily manifestations of love of God, one who knows the science of love of God can understand something about the exalted position of Pundarika Vidyanidhi. Outwardly he appeared very ordinary, if not materialistic, but inwardly he was a devotee of the highest caliber. Of the highest caliber to say the least-he was the incarnation of King Vrsabhanu, the father of Srimati Radharani.
Thus to understand the internal workings of a rasika devotee is not an easy matter -- vaisnavera kriya-mudra vijne na bujhaya. But we must try if we are to make progress. What shall be our guiding light? Ultimately, we must move according to our faith. Yet enlightened faith is required, not blind faith. Scripture is there to guide us, sastra caksus. A discriminating devotee, madhyama adhikari, must make such determinations. Such determinations, however, must be based on a thorough understanding of the revealed scripture, lest one prematurely condemn the rasika b
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Through harinama all good fortune will come to us in due course. What about reading about rasa-tattva ? Srila Puri Maharaja instructed us thus: "Such books must be read with the spirit of crushing lust and greed." Without this, such reading will be counterproductive. It will serve only as the uddipana of the sthayi-bhava of our material life. "... Ver másThese books," he said, "are not to be read for entertainment
To exemplify this idea of keeping the highest ideals above our heads, Srila Sridhara Maharaja often spoke of how Srila Saraswati Thakura wanted to reside at Govardhana rather than at Radha-kunda. "I am not fit to live in Radha-kunda. So I shall live in a lower position, but my gurus -- Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, and others -- are fit to serve there. So I shall go and serve them there in Radha-kunda, and then return to a little lower position, in Govardhana. There I shall stay."
So these are the guiding and instructing moods of devotion service for the gaudiya vaisnavas following our Srila AC Bhaktivedanta swami Prabhupada....However narayanna maharaja drastically allows the open reading of the rasa sastras.....such books as the ujjvala nilamani,govinda lilamrta,gita govinda..even amongst devotees just in the door!....However this is contrary to the mood of the previous archaryas...Srila BHAKTISIDDANTA SARASWATI TAKURA SUGGESTED....
Srila Bhaktisiddanta saraswati takura Prabhupada was so strict that Jotisekhara prabhu his disciple recalled that in the time of SRILA BHAKTISIDDANTA Prabhupada in the Gaudiya Math they had never seen the Rasagrantha. That means that the books dealing with the intimate rasa pastimes of Radha and Krsna, such as GitaGovinda, Govinda lila-amrta, etc. His rule was not to read rasa grantha. Even in the Chaitanya charitamrta there are some sections which describe the feelings of rasa that Radharani is expressing for Krsna. Srila Bhaktisiddanta saraswati takura Prabhupada said to his disciples, "Don't read this section. It's not for you. You are not at this stage!" Only one or two disciples who had been given Manjari svarup were allowed to read it, but not publicly, only privately to themselves.
To exemplify this idea of keeping the highest ideals above our heads, Srila Sridhara Maharaja often spoke of how Srila Saraswati Thakura wanted to reside at Govardhana rather than at Radha-kunda. "I am not fit to live in Radha-kunda. So I shall live in a lower position, but my gurus -- Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, and others -- are fit to serve there. So I shall go and serve them there in Radha-kunda, and then return to a little lower position, in Govardhana. There I shall stay."
So these are the guiding and instructing moods of devotion service for the gaudiya vaisnavas following our Srila AC Bhaktivedanta swami Prabhupada....However narayanna maharaja drastically allows the open reading of the rasa sastras.....such books as the ujjvala nilamani,govinda lilamrta,gita govinda..even amongst devotees just in the door!....However this is contrary to the mood of the previous archaryas...Srila BHAKTISIDDANTA SARASWATI TAKURA SUGGESTED....
Srila Bhaktisiddanta saraswati takura Prabhupada was so strict that Jotisekhara prabhu his disciple recalled that in the time of SRILA BHAKTISIDDANTA Prabhupada in the Gaudiya Math they had never seen the Rasagrantha. That means that the books dealing with the intimate rasa pastimes of Radha and Krsna, such as GitaGovinda, Govinda lila-amrta, etc. His rule was not to read rasa grantha. Even in the Chaitanya charitamrta there are some sections which describe the feelings of rasa that Radharani is expressing for Krsna. Srila Bhaktisiddanta saraswati takura Prabhupada said to his disciples, "Don't read this section. It's not for you. You are not at this stage!" Only one or two disciples who had been given Manjari svarup were allowed to read it, but not publicly, only privately to themselves.
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Of course this is a very indepth discussion which you do need a substantial devotional qualification to make head or tail of......however this is a very important subject to study and appreciate .Because it encourages what some archaryas like Sridhar swami suggest is a clear deviation.....which will ineffect create sahajiyaism as a result of ... Ver másneedlessly changing fundimental spiritual essences,moods and intergral procedures for the aspiring madyama devotees! This is very much in line in my humble opinion with the teachiungs of our Srila AC Bhaktivedanta swami Prabhupada....all glories to my siksa guru ...srila PRABHUPADA KI JAYA!
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